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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby TexianAtHeartII on Wed Dec 12, 2012 7:32 am

MUSTANG wrote:Of course, you could always buy the limited edition, personally autographed, very expensive, hard-cover version. LOL!!!! Shoot, I may even come down and read it for you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby mrbassbone on Wed Dec 12, 2012 10:51 am

HEY...THAT offer was for ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


TexianAtHeartII wrote:
MUSTANG wrote:Of course, you could always buy the limited edition, personally autographed, very expensive, hard-cover version. LOL!!!! Shoot, I may even come down and read it for you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby Fargo Fenwyck on Wed Dec 12, 2012 2:30 pm

Oh Yeah! I'm a lot closer than you. So John comes to my place. I'll feed him. Let him have a drink or two or ten. He reads me the book and then I share it with you. That's a good idea.

mrbassbone wrote:HEY...THAT offer was for ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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MUSTANG wrote:Of course, you could always buy the limited edition, personally autographed, very expensive, hard-cover version. LOL!!!! Shoot, I may even come down and read it for you!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:58 pm

This may have been posted before...but I think this is the first time I've seen it....
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby mrbassbone on Tue Dec 18, 2012 5:12 am

Marty, First time I have seen it, too.


MartyB wrote:This may have been posted before...but I think this is the first time I've seen it....
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:05 am

Things that go BOOM.....
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:06 am

Travis and Bowie.....
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:51 am

" Now ! I’ve been given command of the armies of Texas. But the fly in the buttermilk is there ain’t no armies in Texas. ‘Few good friends ; some willing men… I’m gonn’ have to knock some of those men into an army — and to do that, I need time. You people, you people right here on the real ground, are going to have to buy me that time. You’re gonna have to keep Santa Anna off the back of my neck until I can get in shape to fight him........."
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Thu Feb 28, 2013 12:44 pm

"...Travis wrote to Sam Houston on February 25, after the defenders repulsed a probing assault by the Mexicans on the south side of the mission. "The Hon. David Crockett," Travis observed, "was seen at all points, animating the men to do their duty..."


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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby Travis247 on Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:17 am

MartyB wrote:" Now ! I’ve been given command of the armies of Texas. But the fly in the buttermilk is there ain’t no armies in Texas. ‘Few good friends ; some willing men… I’m gonn’ have to knock some of those men into an army — and to do that, I need time. You people, you people right here on the real ground, are going to have to buy me that time. You’re gonna have to keep Santa Anna off the back of my neck until I can get in shape to fight him........."


Are you guys sure Houston says "real ground"? I have always thought he said " you people right here on the Rio Grand". Guess I have to watch the film 100 more times.

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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby mrbassbone on Fri Mar 01, 2013 3:18 am

It is RIO GRANDE...

Travis247 wrote:
MartyB wrote:" Now ! I’ve been given command of the armies of Texas. But the fly in the buttermilk is there ain’t no armies in Texas. ‘Few good friends ; some willing men… I’m gonn’ have to knock some of those men into an army — and to do that, I need time. You people, you people right here on the real ground, are going to have to buy me that time. You’re gonna have to keep Santa Anna off the back of my neck until I can get in shape to fight him........."


Are you guys sure Houston says "real ground"? I have always thought he said " you people right here on the Rio Grand". Guess I have to watch the film 100 more times.

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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Fri Mar 01, 2013 1:30 pm

mrbassbone wrote:It is RIO GRANDE...

Travis247 wrote:
MartyB wrote:" Now ! I’ve been given command of the armies of Texas. But the fly in the buttermilk is there ain’t no armies in Texas. ‘Few good friends ; some willing men… I’m gonn’ have to knock some of those men into an army — and to do that, I need time. You people, you people right here on the real ground, are going to have to buy me that time. You’re gonna have to keep Santa Anna off the back of my neck until I can get in shape to fight him........."


Are you guys sure Houston says "real ground"? I have always thought he said " you people right here on the Rio Grand". Guess I have to watch the film 100 more times.

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OK...OK...........Seems there was a French Waynamo buff named Michel Drujon (Gambler) who downloaded the ‘script’ from “The Alamo”…thanks to him I often cut and paste snippets of dialogue from the film to emphasize my points or to discuss scenes from the movie...I normally catch and correct minor errors in the dialog…I missed Houston saying "real ground" instead of “Rio Grande”……see viewtopic.php?f=6&t=43&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&hilit=alamo+script ....Now that little feller, bein' French and all probably didn't know a rio grande from real ground...and I...doin' a fast snatch and paste...didn't proofread....So there ya go!!

I’d apologize ‘cept, as John Wayne’s character, Nathan Brittles says in ‘She Wore a Yellow Ribbon’, “Don’t apologize Mister…it’s a sign of workness!”
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby gh1836 on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:22 pm

Seems like to me he said Rio Bravo.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby JB BOOKS on Tue Mar 05, 2013 11:54 pm

The Rio Grande is the real ground, or right near it.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Mon May 20, 2013 12:47 pm

Of interest...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Mon May 20, 2013 2:14 pm

When Jocko's lady and other ladies left the Alamo...poignant...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Sat May 25, 2013 5:11 pm

Of interest...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Sun Jun 02, 2013 5:52 am

Of interest...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Sun Jun 02, 2013 6:16 am

Of interest...


Rememberin'
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Mon Jun 10, 2013 8:03 am

Of interest...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby mrbassbone on Mon Jun 10, 2013 12:26 pm

I think Marty found the crosses.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby cc nolen on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:08 pm

They needed this sure-shot for sure!
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby gtj222 on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:30 pm

I think she just shot the fly off of a burro's tail!!!
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Postby cc nolen on Mon Jun 10, 2013 3:31 pm

I think she hit the bus! :shock: - - - :lol:
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby RLC-GTT on Mon Jun 10, 2013 5:13 pm

In any event, she's tougher than woodpecker lips!
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby cc nolen on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:14 pm

I wouldnt want to test her :shock: :oops:
I took her out to shoot a 9 mm pistol one time and she bounced a can down the road about 10 times :o
I got in the car and went home :? Hid the pistol and thats that! :lol:
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby RLC-GTT on Mon Jun 10, 2013 11:27 pm

cc nolen wrote:I wouldnt want to test her :shock: :oops:
I took her out to shoot a 9 mm pistol one time and she bounced a can down the road about 10 times :o
I got in the car and went home :? Hid the pistol and thats that! :lol:

Smart fellow. You both will live happily ever after. :lol:
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Postby Alamo_Stu on Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:19 pm

Now why couldn't the sombrero/frisbee scene had been just a Cantina tab for Bowie? Just some added, wasted drama about the death of his wife. I still like the scene though.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby cc nolen on Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:53 am

Slow mail :shock: took that guy 2 years to get Bowie the message! :o :lol:
Seems like they were swaying; Hey Jim, while you're down here farting around, your wife died :(
You can chime in now Rich.... ;)
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:53 pm

A few of the great artsy "mood" shots...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:56 pm

Shots from the rarely seen 'Dickenson's Patrol' (he saw Santa Anna comin')...

Got to see the gate bell rung...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Fri Jun 14, 2013 2:14 pm

Now we all know that "The Alamo" has many laughable, corny and dare I say maudlin moments...but it is enjoyable...

However, there is one scene that really bugs me...I assume it was an attempt to be nice-nice with the Mexicans that might be watchin'
the movie and a salute the bravery of the Mexican Soldato...

But this is the least understandable scene in the movie...Nobody would have thought those words, let alone articulated them aloud...I
just don't get the entire dialog...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby gtj222 on Fri Jun 14, 2013 4:42 pm

Yea, Marty. I think ole Duke just got a little carried away with political correctness in a lot of the movie.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby NefariousNed on Fri Jun 14, 2013 7:45 pm

In the MAD MAGAZINE version, Denver Pyle adds, "Yeah and think how much braver they'd be if they outnumbered us 50 to one,
instead of just a measly 35 to one."

While John Wayne (James Edward Grant) certainly did go overboard to praise the Mexican army (all of Duke's wives were Hispanic),
he also did the Tejanos a good turn by making about 25 percent of the garrison Hispanic, as well. (Remember when Juan Seguin
brings them in by the buckboard full along with the men of Gonzales.) Also, in the Director's cut, we witness the death of Toribio
Losoya in the "morning patrol" scene. Colonel Travis even goes out of his way to pay tribute to Losoya's wife who stands stoically
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby Seguin on Sat Jun 15, 2013 1:33 am

Yes, Wayne must have been carried away when he had dialogue like, "It´s funny, I was proud of ´em. Even while I was killin´em, I was proud of ´em. Speaks well for men that so many ain´t afraid to die ´cause they think right´s on their side...Speaks well." You could say the same thing of the Nazi armies. :roll: :D
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby wconly on Sat Jun 15, 2013 3:58 am

Thinking through this dialogue, I doesn't sound that 'silly' or strange to me. I don't think it truly even reflects the 'anti-commie -- pro-American pc,' of the time, either. I truly believe that Grant was attempting to simulate the 'type, and/or style' of 19th Century dialogue here that would reflect how 'brave men stood up against other brave men' scenarios. As if in a dueling situation or in prior times (and even later, such as The Civil War) of lines of army's standing up and shooting at each other according to the 'rules of war,' of the period. If taken in this perspective, this wording makes total sense. I can understand this. And, when comparing this to Nazi's, one must examine a deeper issue (and this includes all opposing forces): It isn't the politics at play here, so much as it is the 'act of warfare, right side or wrong side -- and that is all up too -- where 'you' are placed in the situation. Just my two centabos. W>
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby MartyB on Sat Jun 15, 2013 4:04 am

Nefarious wrote:In the MAD MAGAZINE version, Denver Pyle adds, "Yeah and think how much braver they'd be if they outnumbered us 50 to one,
instead of just a measly 35 to one."

While John Wayne (James Edward Grant) certainly did go overboard to praise the Mexican army (all of Duke's wives were Hispanic),
he also did the Tejanos a good turn by making about 25 percent of the garrison Hispanic, as well. (Remember when Juan Seguin
brings them in by the buckboard full along with the men of Gonzales.) Also, in the Director's cut, we witness the death of Toribio
Losoya in the "morning patrol" scene. Colonel Travis even goes out of his way to pay tribute to Losoya's wife who stands stoically
by.


You're right...the MAD Magazine is a hoot and more honest in it's critique than most reviewers were...

The tribute to Toribio Losoya was another nice-nice moment...considering that earlier Travis (Lawrence) had referred to that 'rabble down there in the yard'...
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby Roark on Tue Jun 18, 2013 3:31 pm

Seguin wrote:Yes, Wayne must have been carried away when he had dialogue like, "It´s funny, I was proud of ´em. Even while I was killin´em, I was proud of ´em. Speaks well for men that so many ain´t afraid to die ´cause they think right´s on their side...Speaks well." You could say the same thing of the Nazi armies. :roll: :D



I was 15 when I first saw the movie and that line of dialogue seemed silly even then. It ranks right ahead of the listen tight Flaca line.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby RLC-GTT on Tue Jun 18, 2013 9:55 pm

Yeah, I'm afraid I agree. Even considering early 19th. century war decorum, it has always been audience-pandering to me, even when I first saw the film at 14 in 1961, I went, "Oh, come ON!" And regardless of it's reason for being, it was just as silly a cinema moment as the awful birthday party scene.
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Re: Actual Scenes From THE ALAMO (1960) Film

Postby cc nolen on Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:04 am

The cut scene of Bonham eating the bread and lying to the Davy Crockett about the 1000 men coming to their aid :roll: is pretty funny too
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