Davy wrote:So true but who cares! It will always be my fave I think ... critics be damned!
What is the dignity of slow wits??
RLC-GTT wrote:In one of my film appreciation courses at Penn State in the sixties -- a time when the only Films (capital F) worthy of study had subtitles and were directed by Godard, Fellini, Truffaux or Kurosawa and anybody who liked John Wayne's The Alamo was an embarrassment to the class, a very intelligent and wise professor (Stephen A. Schlow) told us, "It is O.K. to like a bad Film and not like a good Film." I've felt fine about my love for The Alamo ever since then and will defend it (and the ability of the Film to stimulate that love) against all comers.
Mark's own support for the quality of the film is that he continues to watch it. Mark, have you watched Casablanca as many times?
MUSTANG wrote:Why do we feel we have to defend why we like a particular movie? No matter what film we watch, if it brings enjoyment, stimulates senses, and personally enriches the movie-going experience, that is sufficient. Who cares why, only that it does.
Well, I knew I'd get blasted...
marklemon wrote:But what everyone seems to be missing is that I watch the darned thing as well!...
marklemon wrote:But as a serious student of the cinematic arts Rich ( as I know you are), surely when you say you like it, it's not because you seriously think it has the highest standards of the craft, but rather because you loved it as a kid and it still gets to you much as it did when you were a kid....yes, or no?
marklemon wrote:I suppose that we can like something that is bad, for any number of reasons, but I suspect that most of them center around some visceral response that the thing awakens in us. I'm not saying that's wrong. I'm only asking that we see clearly why we have this addiction to a very uneven film...but a good movie.
Davy wrote:I curious how many of us. if we were looked at in this technical way as "people" would pass muster?
Nefarious wrote:How many of them so-called critics will be remembered as long as THE ALAMO? How many of them are even remembered now?
marklemon wrote:Guys, understand what I'm saying....
If the Alamo were a car, then we'd have to judge it in the context of its pro's and con's compared to other motor vehicles.
If it lacked pickup, and had bad compression, brakes, as well as needing CV joints, it would fall short in comparison with other vehicles without those issues.
BUT, if you first got laid in the back seat of the thing, you'd always have a soft spot in your heart for them, and probably even want one in your garage, just to bring back the feeling now and then....
The Alamo is a film, so we have to judge it in relation to other films, plain and simple. And as a film it largely falls short.
But as movie, or "comfort food" as Davy correctly calls it, it fits the bill, and more.....like I said, I like the damned thing in spite of its flaws. I just in no way call it a great film......and so with this in mind, I have to largely agree with the reviewers. They weren't judging it as a popcorn muncher, or "comfort food," but as a work of the cinematic arts against standards like "Gone With the Wind," "Wuthering Heights," "Citizen Kane,""Casablanca," and others. So really, they were correct. That we love it in spite of its flaws is a separate issue entirely. We love it for the way it made, and continues to make us feel.......... 's all I'm sayin'.
gtj222 wrote:"....a shot of Wayne's Crockett and his mountain boys riding through waist-high grass from which startled birds erupt evokes an untouched, uncorrupted world of legendary heroes."
One of my favorite scenes from the movie. It really moves me.
marklemon wrote:That we love it in spite of its flaws is a separate issue entirely. We love it for the way it made, and continues to make us feel.......... 's all I'm sayin'.
RLC-GTT wrote:marklemon wrote:That we love it in spite of its flaws is a separate issue entirely. We love it for the way it made, and continues to make us feel.......... 's all I'm sayin'.
And all I'm saying is that -- to me -- THAT is what makes a Film great -- that it reaches people eternally despite its cinematic flaws.
garyzaboly wrote:This is a 100% positive review of THE ALAMO from an English film study magazine, MOTION, issue no. 6, autumn 1963. Used to frequent the old film book shops downtown when I worked in the advertising rat race, and of course bought whatever printed literature there was, like this, on my favorite films...even if only a few paragraphs long.
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